Error when extracting ONCC with TRAM

[edt]

According to paradox, when extracting ONCCred_hard_1 with TRAMREDCOMcomb_p you get error messages such as

Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONCOMthrow_rev'
Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONCOMthrow_rev'
Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONRIFturn_right'
Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONOKOlev18_ZomStand'
Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONOKOcorner_hide'
Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONPIScorner_hide'

The problem is that these TRAMS are listed in TRACkonokocore_animations, but were not in included with the Oni.

I noticed you are using the command -extract:dae -search level0_Final <output dir> -anim:TRAMREDCOMcomb_p <path_to_ONCCred_hard_1.oni>

In AETools I have been using this command:

-extract:xml <output dir> -anim-body:<path_to_ONCCred_hard_1.oni> <path_to_TRAMREDCOMcomb_p.oni>

[s10k]

Hi seems Vago also supports that command using:

General > ONI to XML > Another TRAM > Convert

I wonder if you guys which use much more this conversions than me would prefer this to be moved for models or animations? (as ONI to XML)

[Paradox-01]

Yes that function should be moved. When you are on it maybe consider rearrange some more functions. Like:

XML, Levels, Characters, Objects, Textures, Misc

XML: xml <=> oni
Levels: dat <=> oni; oni => dae; xml master file => oni/dat
Characters: oni <=> dae; FILM dat => xml; ONCC oni + TRAM oni => dae + xml
Objects: M3GM oni <=> obj; M3GM oni + OBAN oni => dae; OBAN (cam) <=> dae

With that the user shouldn't confuse animations anymore cuz they are either part of Characters or Objects.

Also now that we have ..

-extract:xml <output dir> -anim-body:path_to_ONCC path_to_TRAM

the older function could be removed:

-extract:dae -search level0_Final output_dir -anim:TRAM path_to_ONCC

I find the combined export of dae and xml much more elegant.

Opinions?

[Paradox-01]

Side note 1:
-extract:dae can't extract ONCC with alien animations (e.g. Barabus with Fury punch doesn't work)
-extract:xml can extract ONCC with alien animations

Side note 2:
-extract:dae need search folder and additional files: TRAC, TRMA, TXMPs
-extract:xml doesn't need those (xml export rulz! ^_^)

[s10k]

I like these suggestions. I will comment soon.

[s10k]

Characters: oni <=> dae; FILM dat => xml; ONCC oni + TRAM oni => dae + xml

By "oni <=> dae" you mean "ONCC oni <=> dae" right?

btw should Vago ignore "Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONCOMthrow_rev'" kind of errors by default?

Talked with Neo too and seems indeed that extract:dae is deprecated. I will replace it with extract:xml.

[Paradox-01]

I had a look at the wiki again. To be fully correct it would be "TRBS/ONCC oni <=> dae" for -extract:dae (character mesh without animation).

There's also a possibility to use -extract:xml for "TRBS oni <=> xml + dae". Can you allow this for Vago's Character tab, too?
I think the xml variant is great because it extracts all ​five 3D meshes of the TRBS. Latest high poly characters use that xml file also for import. So this would be a good addition here.

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should Vago ignore "Cannot find instance 'TRAMKONCOMthrow_rev'" kind of errors by default?

I guess we won't see those errors if you remove -extract:dae for Characters. :-)

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There are a lot of commands in here, to avoid confusion let's look on this summary. I think we agree on those:

Delete: -extract:dae -search search_path output_path -anim:TRAM path_to_ONCC
Add: -extract:xml output_path -anim-body:path_to_ONCC path_to_TRAM
Keep: -extract:dae output_path path_to_TRBS/ONCC
Add: -extract:xml output_path path_to_TRBS

[s10k]

I think I've fixed all in the latest 0.9 version, if not re-open this.

Thanks all.